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“Wait, ducks migrate at night?” Upper Mississippi Refuge ranger Katie Julian on preserving habitat

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Migrating birds feed in the Mississippi River in October of 2024 (PHOTO: Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife & Fish Refuge)

Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife & Fish Refuge ranger Katie Julian joins to talk about the 100-year anniversary, the importance of the Mississippi River for migrating birds and how to help protect them, plus how one can get her job.


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One of the big reasons Julian came on was to spread awareness that, in Lake Onalaska, they put out buoys as “avoidance areas” because those areas have plentiful food sources for migrating birds, and they don’t want boaters to disturb them.

Upper Mississippi Wildlife Refuge rangers install avoidance area buoys in the Mississippi River to help migrating birds (PHOTO: Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife & Fish Refuge)

Julian also talked about the 100-year anniversary and how it’s been their mission to promote conservation and keep a healthy wildlife habitat.

Lastly, as we learned that Julian gets to hang out at overlooks and take pictures of migrating birds and other wildlife, we had to ask just what someone has to do to get a job like hers.

Host of WIZM's La Crosse Talk PM | University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point graduate | Hometown: Greenville, Wis | Avid noonball basketball player and sand volleyballer in La Crosse

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